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Chloe’s Shocking Dog DNA Test Results from Embark AND Wisdom Panel…We Were Scammed by a Doodle Breeder

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Recently I’ve been intrigued by dog DNA tests. I’ve never actually been suspicious of Chloe’s genetic makeup, but since we started Doodle Doods I’ve really been wanting to be able to recommend to our readers first-hand which tests are the best and which gives more accurate dog DNA test results.

So off I went; for this experiment I spent over $300 to buy 2 of the highest rated DNA test kits: Embark’s Breed and Health test kit and Wisdom Panel’s Premium test kit.

Embark Dog DNA Test and Wisdom Panel Dog DNA Test

Now this post isn’t going to be a review of these 2 products – that will be in a separate post later. But I’m really anxious to show the results we got from both tests and how exactly they indicate that we were scammed by Chloe’s breeder 12 years ago.

But before that, let’s get into the backstory. I remember it vividly…

My now husband and I had been dating for about a year. We were 19 years old, young and a little dumb, and we decided we wanted a puppy…despite being starving college students living in a non-pet friendly apartment…but I digress.

Anyway, we started our search on a local classifieds site and soon enough I came across a listing with some pictures of these super adorable puppies.

Newborn Chloe
Actual picture from the listing.

As stated in the listing, the puppies were “English Cream Goldendoodles”. It stated that they were non-shedding and would be “mini” in size. I remember the details of the listing vividly because at the time we were specifically looking for a small, non-shedding dog – something that resembled my parents’ Shih Tzu. I have to admit though, that I’d never heard of a Goldendoodle, so that stood out and I remember doing some Google searches on what that was.

We were so smitten with the pictures though, and so one thing led to another and soon enough we had plans to meet the breeder near our apartment. She claimed that she was meeting with multiple people that day to show the puppies and so we could also come.

Now, knowing what I know now about reputable breeders, in hindsight, having met the breeder anywhere but her own home was the first red flag. (Well, actually, a breeder selling through the classifieds was the first red flag.)

But again, we were young and dumb and had no idea what a reputable breeder was or what that process should’ve looked like. All we wanted was the puppy.

So anyway, when we got there, the breeder had a few puppies with her. They were roaming around on a strip of grass next to the parking lot. Again, hindsight is 20/20…it definitely was another red flag that such young puppies were allowed to roam around on public grounds like that due to risk of parvo. 🤦

Initially we had our eye on Chloe’s brother, who was a lot more mellow than she was. But something about her just really vibed with me and…the rest is history. 🙂

12.5 years later, Chloe is still going strong (and no, she never got parvo). Over the years she has taught us unconditional love, made so many memories with us, and has brought my husband and me and now our daughter so much joy everyday. She’s family and the love we have for her is indescribable.

And to be clear, I couldn’t care less about what kind of dog she is or isn’t, but let’s get back to the topic at hand, which, based off DNA test results from 2 separate companies, is that we were scammed by that breeder 12 years ago.

Guys, my Goldendoodle is not a Goldendoodle…

So what is she? Well, watch the video to see for yourself…

YouTube video

I honestly am still a little shocked about these dog DNA test results. For more than 12 years we believed she was nothing more than the product of a Poodle and a Golden Retriever. Turns out she’s 0% Golden Retriever. 0%…as reported back by 2 separate dog DNA test companies.

This doesn’t affect my love for Chloe in the slightest, but I am really dumbfounded by the fact that the breeder lied about her puppies. Based on the test results, Chloe is half Poodle and somewhere between 14-21% Siberian Husky, which means that one of her parents was a Poodle and the other was a Siberian Husky mix.

Like, there’s no way the breeder saw that parent dog and thought, “that’s definitely a Golden Retriever”.

This is what dumbfounds me. Why not just say you’re breeding Huskydoodles or even just Poodle-mix puppies? People would’ve bought either way. I just don’t get the lie. And to think that she only wanted $250 for each puppy, it’s not like she was losing a lot by lying.

On the flip side, my husband and I definitely should’ve been more informed. We should’ve thought more about the ethics and process that a breeder should have. We should’ve asked her questions, asked to see her home environment, and demanded to see documentation of Chloe’s health and her parents’ health. By the way, we were promised to receive all of that by email after the adoption, but we didn’t and…we never really cared to follow up.

To let bygones be bygones, I have to reiterate that we don’t regret getting Chloe at all. But again, we only paid $250 for her, and there are people out there who pay a lot more than that and don’t actually have the dog that they were promised.

So if this can be a lesson to anyone thinking about paying big money to bring home a Doodle puppy, it’s to make sure that you’re asking the breeder the right questions, that the puppies are being raised in an actual home with personalized, on-demand care, and that you’re able to meet the parent dogs and/or view the health documents of the parents and the puppies.

As for us, well, we went 12 years believing and telling people that Chloe is a Goldendoodle. What now? Is she a Huskydoodle? A Mutt-doodle? I’m not really sure…

What do you think we should call her? Let us know in the comments below!

21 thoughts on “Chloe’s Shocking Dog DNA Test Results from Embark AND Wisdom Panel…We Were Scammed by a Doodle Breeder

  1. I have the greatest dog ever.She does, not shed
    She loves everyone,she behaves well.
    I love her
    . Whatever she is she is mine . Love concurs all.He is my last dog and will outlive me.


  2. Oh, wow, Whitney! Chloe looks so much like our Evie, who truly is a Goldendoodle, who would have guessed that she isn’t? Some of my students and family members have purchased Goldendoodles from so called breeders. They had a similar experience as you did with the breeder and each dog has had definite health or behavioral issues that were the result of unscrupulous breeding. I wish there were stricter laws regarding the industry. We have many puppy mills here in PA and people are scammed all the time.
    We paid a lot for our pups but our breeder runs a first-rate operation. Her mother is a breeder so she grew up in the business and was trained as a vet tech. She loves her dogs as her children and has refused to turn over a pup to a buyer and returned his/her deposit when intuitively sensing a potentially bad home. If a pup doesn’t work out for some reason, she requests you return the dog to her, no matter its age.
    Chloe is Chloe and the test doesn’t change that or your love for her but sharing this experience enlightens the practices of unethical breeders to your readers. With the increasing demand for “Doodles,” I’m afraid many more will be scammed.

  3. I’d call Chloe a Poodle Mix.
    I too was told that my puppy “Murphy’ is a Golden Doodle and I paid $800 for him.
    He is now 10 months old. He doesn’t look anything like a Doodle, he looks more and more like a Golden Retriever. He sheds like crazy! He’s a beautiful dog and I love him dearly but honestly, I wanted a dog that did not shed or at the very least, not a lot. My daughter bought the dog for me, she met the seller at her home, met the parents of Murphy (well at least they told her they were Murphy’s parents) both the parents were small and looked like poodles. No papers but that was fine with me since I wasn’t interested in breeding Murphy. If I had a DNA test done, I’d bet there’s no poodle or very little poodle in Murphy! Oh well…too late now, he’s part of the family! :o)

  4. It’s funny that you happened to do this with Chloe, we just talked with our vet about doing a DNA test on our “Teddy” …I’m not sure that he is actually a golden doodle now either, one thing that makes me wonder is the fact that he has a severe underbite now after his adult teeth came in, I’ve seen many pics of doodles and none with an underbite like his. It won’t matter for me either, because we love him just the way he is, no matter what he is!
    Your Chloe is a beautiful girl, no matter what her background is!

  5. Hi Whitney,
    Chloe is a beautiful Doodle Girl and that’s what I would call her . I have a Bernedoodle girl named Nellie. I personally know her Mom (Bernese Mountain Dog) and know the family owner of her dad (Standard Poodle) but curious as to “what if”. They were pure breeds.
    Your Chloe is a sweet girl and is still a doodle…. “Doodle Girl”.

  6. You’ve got a doodle (in my mind the best dogs in the world!!) We had a similar experience with our Charly-girl. We were told she was an F1B. We were looking for a dog with less chance of shedding due to my husbands allergies. So when we went to look at the puppy available we of course fell in love. She looked like she should, and I specifically asked the breeder again if she was an F1B and she said yes! She is and F1B. And also that she would NOT shed. I later had a DNA test done. Turns out she is 1/2 golden retriever and 1/2 poodle. Good thing is she doesn’t shed. However, her DNA test said that she would shed and would also have straight hair. Both of these results have turned out to be wrong. She does not shed and if she does it’s very little. And she has a beautiful thick coat of big soft curls…. So, how accurate are these tests…..? All that matters is that you’ve got a great doodle and we all love our doodles!

  7. I am pretty shocked as well as my black golden doodle looks just like Chloe. His name is o2 and while he has not had a test his sister has and it came back f1 golden doodle (or my cousin would have asked for her money back). I like Chloe doodle!

  8. I agree with Cynthia and Linda. She’s a ChloeDoodle and your (very lucky) Doodle girl. She’s adorable and you love her. We all know that love matters most!

  9. 1st of all, I wish I could read this as I love your content but your text is to light against your back ground. I did a lot of research when we got our mini golden doodle. Puppies were hard to find as we got her during the pandemic. We lost our 14 year old Goldenretiever and wanted a smaller dog so we looked at doodles as they come in different sizes. These puppies are very expensive and if you are looking for one be very careful. We worked with our breeder for a long time as the 1st 2 liters we were signed up for didn’t work out and then I was on a list for a f1 which might shed because it is 1st generation so I got move to the liter we selected our puppy from, f1bs. We picked up our puppy at the breeder’s home so we saw the enviroment. I was scammed by another breeder who took my unrefundable deposit and then never communicated with us again. BE VERY CAREFUL when looking for doodles and there are many mixes not just goldens or labs. So no matter what, Chloe is a DOODLE!

  10. We were scammed too!!! Our labradoodle was 11% Rottweiler and mutt!! We immediately contacted the breeder about the results. We were giving 50% of the purchase price back and she posted on her Facebook about what happened and said she will be fixing that momma dog. He was supposed to be our stud but I can’t know he’s not a true doodle and try to pass his offspring off as doodle. I’m just glad I did research and uncover this info before we planned on breeding him.

  11. Whitney, Chloe is so beautiful and has obviously brought so much love and joy to your lives. That is all that’s important.

    If you feel as though you MUST identify her… maybe call her simply a Doodle, which is what? A poodle mix.

    As for me though, I would just ever so lovingly call her… Chloe.

    As for the difference between breeders and scammers, the biggest reveal of that difference can be found in the price of the animal alone. For instance, we paid 4 times what you did for Ellie and Bullitt. And our breeder was only a second time breeder of Goldendoodles, but one we knew, along with the parents. When we had previously spoken to another breeder, it would have been 2 or more times what WE paid. (Food for thought there.) We didn’t choose the breeder we got Ellie and Bullitt from because of the lesser price though. We chose them because we already knew them. The litter of puppies just came up in conversation!

    Most people have no idea of the expenses reputable breeders ho through to be just that… reputable. These breeders take their matches and litters very seriously, and are passionate about the breed… type, personality, conformity, health, etc. THEY do a lot of testing… Health, DNA, etc. And as Whitney had shared, this isn’t exactly cheap.

    These reputable breeders typically also put time and energy into diet, initial training (house breaking, basic sit-stay-come), and the like. They want their puppies to have a successful start with their new families.

    Now this isn’t to say that there aren’t reputable breeders who try to get top dollars for their puppies because we know they’re out there. So Whitney’s advice is very valuable! Do your homework and due diligence!

    Another thought to consider is that a lot of reputable breeders SHOW their dogs. If they claim “champion lineage”, follow up! Contact the AKC, etc. and inquire with regards their participation and awards received. Again, a reputable breeder should encourage this and respect you for it. (Understand that doodles are NOT YET recognized breeds. However, their parents should be! ) In fact, they should present you with medical reports, dna results, and anything else they have that will be beneficial to you and your dood. They should also advise you of their diet and send you home with about a week’s worth (…unless they feed raw. In that case, they should have already had that discussion with you, answered any questions, and help you make a determination on what you wish to do, and how to move forward.) Repuyable breeders are HELPFUL INFORMATIVE BREEDERS!

    Now comes a difficult situation for some… spay/neuter agreements. You may think if your paying that much for a pet, you should have a right to do as you wish. But… there is a reason for this.

    Reputable breeders, again, usually show their dogs. (And, even though doodles are not recognized breeds, they ARE able to show in agility! So they COULD be registered for such.) These breeders (or as our beloved doodles go, “cross-breeders”) have specific standards in mind for this new “breed”. Reputable breeders, again, are very passionate about what they are trying so hard to develop (as a new breed!) Out beloved doodles may or may not ever get the recognition that WE think they deserve, but that doesn’t stop these breeders from trying their best! They don’t want people (like unfortunately Whitney and many others fall prey to) calling their dogs something they are not, and ruining the purity they have so passionately tried to instill in this “new breed”. So what they are trying to achieve is keeping people who adopt their puppies from breeding them outside of the strict standards they have set out to “perfect”.

    The other thing that many people are misled by is size. Read up on the size and weights the various sizes should be at different ages. If you are limited and cannot have a large dog, this is very important!

    If you have never been involved in a breeding program, it is so hard to imagine all the time and expense that goes into it. Reputable breeders are worth their price, and part of that price is to ensure you have a healthy new family member! Keep that in mind.

    As a side note, I am NOT a dog breeder. Just a lover. I did, however, used to breed Persian and Himalayan cats years ago. So I do understand, appreciate and respect what good breeders do.

  12. I meant to say, “Now this isn’t to say that there aren’t DIS-reputable breeders who try to get top dollars for their puppies because we know they’re out there.”

    I apologize for the typos, as I’m doing this on my phone.

  13. I would call Chloe a doodle/husky mix. When out with Chopper we are ask a lot — is he one of those doodle dogs and we say yes. Then we tell them what kind. Some just say that’s a pretty poodle. I too question Chopper more so because he doesn’t have button eyes. We paid $500 and later saw what good breeders charge and felt bless to have him. But it doesn’t matter what they are we love them just the way they are. But it’s only right that we get what we pay for and want. A lot to be said for honest people — integrity is sometimes hard to find. That is why I thank you so much for writing this article it helped me a lot and it is my prayer that it is put in a place that when anyone does a search on doodles it comes up,

  14. Chloe is loved and loves you unconditionally. What more can you ask for? She is a Doodle, just like my Daisy……..and aren’t we lucky for them to be part of our lives.

  15. I bought a mini bernadoodle that has NO poodle! She is Bernese mountain dog and old English sheepdog and 90lbs!…same as you I love her dearly but…. Come on!

  16. I have a ten year old dog that is supposed to be a Labradoodle, and a six month old that is supposed to be a mini goldendoodle. The Labradoodle does not shed and the mini has not shedded yet.

    I will not get them tested because I love them to pieces and so it doesn’t matter.

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